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Financing Long Term Care – 24-Item PowerPoint Presentation
Script Option 2

Slide 1. Program Title Slide: Financing Long Term Care

Introduction

Consider the couple who have multiple chronic illnesses and care for each other, because home care aides are too expensive. They live on Social Security. They save money by often skipping prescription refills due to high costs. They checked out long term care insurance and couldn’t afford the premiums. They don’t want to go to a nursing home. Their $95,000 in life savings and the value of their home wouldn’t go far. Everyone knows who is on Medicaid in the nursing home and they don’t want to be dependent on the county. They won’t accept money from their grown children. They desperately want to die the day their money runs out!

Slide 2. Few individuals plan for their 60s and beyond. They don’t recognize what it means to live to 100 or what they can do to prepare for that possibility. They don’t think about the risks that come with changing health and independence, and specifically managing the need for long term care. It is important to (point to slide) plan for changing health and independence, take action to decide how to manage the changes and evaluate and make changes as needed.

Slide 3. Consider these long term care dilemmas and decisions. (See slide.)

– Few have planned for long term care.

– Hard to admit we may need long term care.

– Know too little about our options and long term care insurance.

– Gaps in knowledge make it hard to plan.

Slide 4. You can protect your later life financial security by being pro-active. Take time to:

– Sort out expectations, goals concerns – talk about your situation with your spouse or kids or other advisors, Make decisions before a crisis occurs.

– Learn the risks of going to a nursing home or needing home care.

– Learn the costs.

– Consider how you will pay for long term care.

Prepare yourself to take action.

Suggested Activity: Ask each participant to complete the quiz, Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?

Slide 5. Financial Expectations and Long Term Care

Not everyone agrees how to manage the costs for long term care. Unfortunately, there are many ideas of what to do and most are not compatible. What is it you want the most?

 

– Financial independence

– Financial control

– Expect family members to provide long term care or money to cover the costs.

– Use government services to provide your care.

– Leave an inheritance.

Do other family members know how you feel?

Slide 6. The need for Long Term Care is determined by your ability to perform tasks called Activities of Daily Living (ADLs). Persons suffering from dementia may be able to perform the tasks but often can’t remember certain tasks such as when to take medications.

ADLs (Insurance and Medicare Definitions)

– Bathing, eating, toileting, dressing, transferring (for example, from bed to chair), walking.

– Taking medications, shopping, housekeeping (applies to assisted living and home care)

– Performed in a home, community, or skilled nursing facility.

Slide 7. Who needs long term care? – 1 (refers to first item in questionnaire)

How did you answer Item 1 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? The answer is false.

Many are misinformed about what the risk of needing long term care means. Many also fail to learn what their choices are. Most long term care is received at home from family members and friends. As you get frail, you may need some help with dressing or meal preparation or other ADL. You may need some skilled care, such as therapy. You may need community services such as help with bathing from a home care provider or adult day care while a family member who cares for you in the evening can keep her job. You may be advised to go to a nursing home because your care is demanding, intensive, and your health needs can’t be met at home.

Slide 8. Who is most at risk to need long term care? – 2-3

How did you answer Items 2 and 3 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Both answers are true.

Your risks increase as you get older and if you are a woman. Persons under age 65 who need long-term care often have chronic health problems such as severe arthritis or disabling injuries. The women at risk for long term care are those who outlive their husbands, live alone and therefore do not have an unpaid caregiver in the home.

Slide 9. What are the risks? – 2-3

(Again referring to Items 2 and 3)

If you are over 65, you have a 75% chance of needing some long term care at some point in your life. Average lifetime home care use is over 200 visits (whether five times a week (5 x 40 weeks = 200 visits) or a few times (3 times a week = one year and three months). Persons spend an average of one year in a nursing home.

Slide 10. What are the costs of long term care? – 4-5

How did you answer Items 4 and 5 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 4 is false; item 5 is true.

While the 2003 average daily nursing home rate at $100 is more than the hourly rate for a home health aide, total daily cost for home care can up if several hours of care are needed each day.

Ask: What kinds of rates have you or friends and family members paid for home health care?

Slide 11. How do you expect to pay for long term care? – 6

Studies suggest than many individuals have different and competing financial goals each is trying to accomplish.

How did you answer Item 6 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? The answer is true.

The questionnaire, Critical Conversations About Financing Long Term Care: Can We Talk? Identifying Financial Security Goals for Later Life – Worksheets A or B, can help you sort through your feelings. You and your partner will want to discuss these.

Suggested Activity: Demonstrate how to use the questionnaire by having participants answer sample questions for one section OR at least one question under each potential goal.

Next, review how you might pay for long term care.

– individual/family resources (savings and earnings; liquidating investments or other assets)

– immediate family (spouse’s resources)

– buy long term care insurance (while you can pass medical underwriting and premiums are affordable)

– government (Medicare or Medicaid).

Consider a combination of resources. Be prepared for conflict. Not everyone will agree on the same solution for mom and dad or even for yourself!

Slide 12. Who really pays for long term care? – 7-8

How did you answer Items 7 and 8 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Both answers are true.

– Individual/family resources are the income and life savings of elders and family members.

– Family home is protected for spouse or if you are able to leave nursing home and return home.

– Medicare pays for less than 7% of total. It pays for initial rehabilitation and never for routine physical care.

– Medicaid pays nursing home costs after financial resources are spent-down.

Slide 13. Who else pays for long term care?

How did you answer Item 7 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 7 is true.

– Unpaid family members provide the majority, roughly (three-fourths) of long term care.

– Working caregivers spend an average of 22 hours a week providing elder care.

– Working caregivers lose an average of $650,000 in lost wages, lost Social Security benefits, and lost pension contributions.

In planning for your long-term care, it is important to consider how and if your adult children, who are most likely employed and responsible for your grandchildren, can modify their lifestyles to accommodate your increased frailty. What can you do to support your children as they assist you?

Slide 14. Medicaid is a safety net – 8-10

How did you answer Items 8, 9, and 10 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 8 is true. Item 9 is false. Item 10 is true.

– State and federal funds pay for home, community, and nursing home care when an individual has both insufficient assets and monthly income. Elder choices in Arkansas is an example of home care paid by Medicaid funds.

– Critical to understand income and asset rules. They are discussed in the next slide.

– "Healthy" spouses are protected from poverty. A spouse living at home may keep a certain level of income and assets, including the home. The home does not have to be sold to raise funds to pay the nursing home. This helps protect a healthier spouse’s financial security. Before you deny yourself or your loved ones medical assistance, contact the Medical Services case worker in your County Department of Human Services (DHS) office to learn "up front" your options. See next slide.

Slide 15. Medicaid Spend-Down Rules – 11

Single persons can keep $2,000 in assets. Their income must be $1,635 per month or less (2002) figure. If your monthly income is insufficient to pay the nursing home but above the monthly limit, DHS can explain your options.

If you are married, the other spouse can keep between $17,856 and $89,280 in assets (2002).

Spend-down amounts are adjusted each year for inflation.

Slide 16. Does Not Pay for Long Term Care – 12-13

How did you answer Items 12 and 13 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Both answers are false.

Examine your health insurance policy carefully. It pays for medical services but not for daily living care (ADLs).

Medicare pays for a limited amount of skilled home care and nursing home care, usually rehabilitation. For example, after knee surgery, Medicare will pay for physical therapy, while you learn to use your own or replacement knee.

Medicare supplement insurance pays for a portion of the Medicare deductibles and copayments, but not for services that are considered ADLs.

Slide 17 Don’t Buy Long Term Care Insurance – 14

How did you answer Item 14 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 14 is false.

Before you buy long term care insurance, think about whether you can afford the premiums for the rest of your life. Long term care insurance benefits can help pay part of the nursing home costs so you do not have to spend your assets. That way you can leave an inheritance.

Long term care policy benefits usually have limits. Policies often limit coverage to specific settings (licensed facilities and licensed medical providers), specific lengths of time (12, 24, 36, or 60 months), and certain dollar amounts per day ($75, $100 or $125 per day). It is possible to buy lifetime coverage.

Slide 18. Long Term Care Insurance Covers… – 15

How did you answer Item 15 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 15 is false.

Custodial care – ADLs. Keep in mind long term care insurance typically protects against potential non-medical long term custodial care costs as defined by the ADLs.

Long term care insurance is indemnity insurance. Benefits are bought using fixed amounts, for example, up to $100 per day or up to a certain maximum amount such as $200,000.

The maximum benefit is figured by multiplying a daily benefit times a certain period of time, for example, $100 per day for 3 years equals $109,500. In this example, you will receive no more than $109,500.

Slide 19. If You Buy Long Term Care Insurance? – 16

How did you answer Item 16 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 16 is false.

Long term care premiums will increase with age because the risk of needing care increases with age. Keep in mind, the risk of becoming uninsurable or passing health underwriting, also increases with age.

When applying for long term care insurance, disclose everything on the application. Companies will "look back" at your health records for at least 5 to 7 years.

Slide 20. Long Term Care Insurance – 16

Most experts recommend you consider buying long term care insurance between ages 50 and age 65.

– Fewer competing demands

– Good chance of passing medical underwriting.

– Premiums are relatively low.

– More likely can buy a policy to fit your needs for now and until the end of your life.

Slide 21. Long Term Care Insurance: Inflation Rider – 16

Experts recommend you buy a policy with an inflation rider, preferably with a compounded inflation rider.

– A simple interest inflation rider will add 5% periodically to the daily benefit. You will be required to pay a higher (between 45% to 85% higher) premium.

– A compounded interest inflation rider, usually a 5% compounded per year addition to the daily benefit means a 65% to 200% higher premium. Experts recommend this option.

In the example, $100/day room benefit, in 35 years @ 5% compounded, increases the benefit to $552 per day.

Slide 22. Long Term Care Insurance – 16

Use the Rule of 3 when you shop for long term care insurance. That is, compare three different policies. Either listen to a sales presentation or compare policies on the Internet. The slide compares three real examples.

Slide 23. Have A Critical Conversation – 17

How did you answer Item 17 (Long Term Care: Do You Know the Facts?)? Item 17 is true.

You need a complete picture of your income and assets before you shop for long term care insurance. If you know you can’t afford or don’t qualify medically for a policy, there is no need to go further. It may be more important to assess how you will pay the costs if you are required to spend-down your assets.

Make sure you, your spouse and perhaps your adult children have a critical conversation together or even with yourself so you:

– Recognize your risk of long term care.

– Understand possible costs (home care, nursing home, etc.)

– Sort out your expectations and goals.

– Understand financing alternatives and consequences.

– Take action now before a crisis.

Slide 24. Closing credits.

Distribute "Long Term Care and Your Financial Security." This handout includes the answers to each of the questions in the quiz.

2003. Judith R. Urich, Ph.D., CFP, Family Resource Management Specialist

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